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CigarFish
January 1, 2001, 04:42 PM
I'll be in Madrid on January 11-12 staying in the museum/historic district near the Prado. Seville on the 13th.

Anybody who can point me toward a good cigar shop, or give me any other tips on buying cigars in Madrid/Seville or Spain in general?

I'll be touring the Andalusian mountain and coastal region for about a week as well.

Thanks, Davis

garHead
January 1, 2001, 04:48 PM
Davis give me a page 1m 800 526 5729 & i'll call you back> i'll give you the poop in Madrid & the region you are traveling to.

TripleCap
January 1, 2001, 04:58 PM
The best shop I found was the one on the Calle des Magallenes. Of course, it was siesta time when I arrived so I had to peer in through the window. There is also a OK shop about a half mile south of the Plaza Mayor. I forget the name of the calle, but it is the one with about 50 restaurants on it.

Cap'n Keith
January 2, 2001, 04:28 AM
These are the addresses of the Estancos in Madrid, the best one is the Estanco Magallanes, the owner Jose is a top guy, met hime in Spain and Havana. He was Habanos man of Y2K i believe. You can ONLY pay in cash, except in the El Corte Ingles shop, where credit cards are accepted.

The shop at Barajas (Madrid) Airport is VERY good, so if you are brave enough to take some back with you, the selection is usually much better than in Spain itself <IMG SRC='/cf4/images/smiley/smiley01.gif' BORDER=0 WIDTH=15 HEIGHT=15>


Calle Barquillo No.22
Owner: Jose Carlos Rubio
Phone +34-915-220-222

Calle Cardenal Cisneros No. 17
Owner: Jesus Llano
Phone +34-914-451-727

Calle Magallanes No.14
Owner: Jose Martinez Franco
Phone +34-914-462-817

Calle Jose del Hierro No. 39
Owner: Eulalio Bejarano
Phone +34-913-775-311

Paseo de la Castellana No. 204
Owner: Jose Ignacio Otegui
Phone +34-913-590-527

Estanco inside El Corte Ingles "Castellana"
Calle Raimundo Fernandsez Villaverde, 79

GGinSF
January 2, 2001, 10:11 AM
The best shop that I found in Seville was La Cava de Puros on Calle Betis in the Triana district. It's across the river from the bullring and worth visiting.

GGinSF
January 2, 2001, 12:34 PM
There is a small shop in the Chamartin train station in Madrid. Not a huge selection but at least their cigars were stored well. I picked up a handfull of Siglo I's there and they were very good.

CigarFish
January 2, 2001, 03:52 PM
I'm overwhelmed with all of the suggestions and help. Thank you one and all.

aperez
January 2, 2001, 04:46 PM
Barajas airport and Cava de Magallanes are the best shops!

Plus try the broled lamb shank in almost any restaurant! ENJOY!

CigarFish
January 3, 2001, 06:38 PM
What are the normal shop hours? Is it true that some businesses close from 1:30 to 4:30?

I understand that the same cigars are available, or not, at all the shops. And that selection is somewhat limited. Is there anything in particular that is above average at the moment?

GGinSF
January 3, 2001, 08:28 PM
Most shops close for siesta. I was surprised to find that most tobacco stores are really just cigarette kiosks. Some have no cigars, and a few would have a dried out box of Monte #4'sitting out on the counter.

A few shops had a good selection of singles, but I didn't find any place with lots of boxes, except for the shop in Sevilla I mentioned above (I didn't know about the other shops mentioned by others so they may have a selection of boxes).

All the prices should be the same, but selection varried a little. All the cigars were priced well, and I found that Vegas Robaina were the best deal. I bought Cohibas when I could find them (not often), but also saw (and smoked) a lot of Punch Punch.

The great part about cigars in Spain is after an excellent meal in a restaurant I would order an espresso and "cognac" (Spanish brandy). Lighting up a great cigar there at my table was a pleasure I can't enjoy here in California.

P.S. Havana Club rum is everywhere and it's inexpensive.

TripleCap
January 3, 2001, 10:47 PM
The shop on Calle des Magallenes closes for siesta. I learned the hard way!

garHead
January 4, 2001, 05:03 AM
Walt, most lessons in life are learned the hard way. <P> Davis, it's also the rainy season so bring your warm & stay-dry rain riding suit. <IMG SRC='/cf4/images/smiley/smiley05.gif' BORDER=0 WIDTH=15 HEIGHT=15>

Oddjob
January 4, 2001, 12:01 PM
Spain, after Cuba, is the best place in the world to buy Cubans. They are available all over the place.

GGinSF
January 4, 2001, 01:39 PM
Oddjob, I was surprised when I was there a few months ago that the selection wasn't great (garhead had warned me but I thought "what does he know?" <IMG SRC='/cf4/images/smiley/smiley02.gif' BORDER=0 WIDTH=15 HEIGHT=15>). However prices were excellent and once I'd find a place that had cigars stored well I'd make sure to stop by there regularly.

Going with the thought "I'm going to pick up 'X' cigar or a box of 'X'" can lead to disapointment since many brands and sizes were impossible to find. However if one is open to what to buy it certainly is a pleasure to get Punch Punch for about $4 or a Trinidad for $12 or so.

TripleCap
January 4, 2001, 01:58 PM
Oddjob is definitely wrong when it comes to Madrid.

DonAlejandro
January 4, 2001, 03:51 PM
Prices in Spain are great. And the dollar is doing great against the Euro right now. Problem is that selection can vary in Spain. You can't get Bolivars and H Upmanns for example. Also, you'll want to inspect your cigars. The quality of the Cigars sent to Spain isn't as good as other countries in Europe. Also, as mentioned before, many shops don't keep the cigars in proper conditions. Many tobacco stands and shops just have them behind the counter without humidification.

aperez
January 4, 2001, 07:50 PM
Prices are great and but just like DonAlejandro states ..... the estancos keep them in very crappy conditions...

The shop at Barajas has the best selection and last time I was in spain they had almost all the shorter versions of Bolivars and Upmanns. In fact I recall the Monarchs for 36,500 pesetas

In the city Cava de Magallanes has the best selection and a great walk in humidor... Bought a box of 10 RyJ Churchill Tubos for 14,100 pesetas!

CigarFish
January 8, 2001, 09:13 AM
Wanted to top this one last time and to thank everybody again for the detailed information. It has been very helpful.

Departing Wednesday.

Keith, I emailed you the information for my hotels along the way in case you are in Sevilla on the 20th.

garHead
January 8, 2001, 09:35 AM
Fair Winds & Gods Speed Davis. I'll try to be there. My cell phone works in Spain so give me a call that week. 610 202 3399

GGinSF
January 8, 2001, 12:32 PM
Have a great trip, both of you. I wish I was joining you in Sevilla <IMG SRC='/cf4/images/smiley/smiley36.gif' BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=16>

I just found my receipt from La Cava de Puros there: Choix Supreme @ 660 pta, Trinidad @ 1,910, Siglo I @ 800 pta, Partagas 898 Varnished at 1,165 & Punch Petite Corona @ 530 pta.

Via con Dios.

CigarFish
January 9, 2001, 09:33 AM
Gary, if I wasn't sure whether to stop at the La Cava in Sevilla, I'm convinced now. From what I've heard, thats an above average selection.

Hopefully I'll find an internet cafe where I can post up-to-the-minute price/availability on this thread while I'm over there.

Thanks again.

garHead
January 9, 2001, 10:57 AM
Davis, Internet site are everywhere.

corn27
January 9, 2001, 12:43 PM
This info could be useful!

CigarFish
January 10, 2001, 09:07 AM
Woohoo, leaving for the Tampa airport in about 3.5 hours. Three hours flying from there to Newark, 3 hour layover and then on to Madrid. I hope to be in the Estanco Magallanes within 24 hours.

aperez
January 10, 2001, 09:14 PM
Have a safe flight and a great time!

Bring me back some Jamon Serrano and chorizo!

CigarFish
January 24, 2001, 06:51 PM
Couldn't find a convenient time to get on-line while I was away. We spent seven days motorcycling through the Southern mountains and coast...

Not that I'd buy or smoke any contrabando, but here's the current pricing per box in Pasetas. The conversion is about 175 to a Dollar and these prices include VAT:

Coh Esp - 70,500
Coh Sig IV - 33,000
Part Luci - 34,500
Part SD4 - 23,250
Part 988V - 29,125
HdM DC - 196,000
HdM Epi1 - 28,875
Monte A - 77,625
Monte 2 - 28,625
Monte 4 - 15,000
Punch Punch - 23,000
Rey del Mundo CS - 16,500
RyJ Exh4 - 17,875
Sancho Beli - 19,375
Trini Fund - 45,840 (24)
VR DA - 32,250
VR Uni - 26,250

Thanks, everybody, for all the help.

GGinSF
January 24, 2001, 07:05 PM
Cool, but how much was the Jamon Serrano? Hope you had a great time there.

CigarFish
January 24, 2001, 07:27 PM
I checked out the prices of Jamon Serrano Iberico in the airport. The price ranged from about $10 to $40 per pound, with the most expensive being the black pigs that were fed acorns, acorns, acorns, acorns.