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TTslim
February 19, 2002, 05:14 AM
I looking for a lighter what one is better for the money? the dunhill or the dupont?TIA

Ljutic
February 19, 2002, 08:33 AM
Hard to go wrong with either. I would, and have, chosen the Ligne II Dupont when this decision needs to be made. Still don't have a Dunhill.

oppie x
February 19, 2002, 08:35 AM
Dupont Ligne II is hard to beat.

Kocheese
February 19, 2002, 09:03 AM
Dupont Ligne II.

The Dunhill has to many small moving pasts underneath the 'cap', which would be prone to failure.

And Duponts just kick butt.

cigarnv
February 19, 2002, 09:15 AM
Have owned both..Dunhill by a long shot. Classic design, less weight, standard gas and less cost up front. Both perform extremely well...but I prefer the look and feel of the Unique.

pissmonkey
February 19, 2002, 09:48 AM
I have used the Dunhill and own a Dupont Ligne II...Love my dupont. Always works.

KP
February 19, 2002, 02:44 PM
Dupont for cigars Dunhill for cigarettes. The ligne 2 with cigar flame (twin flame) is hard to beat. I have both but like the dupont better. The dunhill rollagas are nice but flame is to narrow.

cigarnv
February 19, 2002, 04:10 PM
My comments above relate only to the Dunhill Unique line with the cigar flame...agree the rollagas is not a good cigar lighter....

bigdaddy
February 19, 2002, 06:59 PM
Dupont

LLKZ 16
February 20, 2002, 01:05 PM
Dupont Line 2........PING!

ffoxsmkr
February 20, 2002, 01:34 PM
Have you looked at an IMCorona? Great lighter for the price IMHO. I've had mine over a year, no problems.

Simply Fuentes
February 20, 2002, 02:36 PM
PING!!!

JFG
February 20, 2002, 03:02 PM
I have both and my Ligne II is the favorite.

BeerGuy
February 20, 2002, 04:19 PM
Ligne 2 here and i love it!!

AmbassadorP
February 20, 2002, 08:22 PM
Ligne 2 - #1
Unique - #2

drkaje
February 20, 2002, 08:50 PM
Really love both. Have a dunhill rollgas and a gatsby dual flame.
Try e-bay, pensgallery is a great seller, for great deals on Duponts.

Brandon
February 21, 2002, 06:04 AM
Hey,...my GF works at the Dunhill shop here and I wanted her opinion on this thread. <br><br> She said: Way back in the day, the Dunhill lighter had a "UNIQUE" feature probably being the first one-handed lighter. Try and guess what that design was called. Go ahead,...I'll wait! <IMG SRC='/cf4/images/smiley/smiley02.gif' BORDER=0 WIDTH=15 HEIGHT=15> Just about all of the Dunhill ones weren't designed to have a big 'ol flame that cigars need. You'd have to send it back to Dunhill and have the thing CONVERTED into a thicker flame ($$$). BTW, Dunhill is notorious for requiring adjustments and overhauling ($$$). In her words, the Dunhills are "foo-foo." (Foo-foo is like those damn poodles that keep winning the Westminster dog shows,...maybe nice to look at, but VERY high maintenance, and really good for nothing. Wait a minute...that sounds just like her!!! BWAHHAHAHA <IMG SRC='/cf4/images/smiley/smiley01.gif' BORDER=0 WIDTH=15 HEIGHT=15> )<br><br> It all depends on what you're looking for in the lighter. To make it simpler to understand, I'll use cigar cutter terms. If you want a workhorse cigar cutter that'll never fail and work everyday go with a Zino or Xikar (lighters: read DuPont.) If you want that one cutter that'll make everyone stop in their tracks and take notice cause it looks BAD ASS even though at that critical moment you actually use the damn thing it might not work, get an Dunhill coin cutter. (lighters: read Dunhill.) <br><br> Hell, in my opinion, just about everything Dunhill makes except for the humidors are "foo-foo." Do yourself a favor, go with the DuPonts. And while you're at it, get one for me too. (heh heh <IMG SRC='/cf4/images/smiley/smiley02.gif' BORDER=0 WIDTH=15 HEIGHT=15> )

cigarnv
February 21, 2002, 10:58 AM
I must be a lucky fella..I have 4 Uniques and have used some of them for in excess of 20 years with not a single reason to send one in for service. As for the flame, I purchased mine with a cigar burner flame at no additional cost??? I also have 2 Duponts and an X-tend which is in for repair as we speak.

The major problem I have with the Dupont is the special gas and the weight..very good lighters.....but I will stick with the Dunhill....

ormazd
February 21, 2002, 02:48 PM
Has anyone heard if these are a target for counterfeiters? I see a lot of overseas sources on Ebay, and am a bit skeptical...

Brandon
February 21, 2002, 04:16 PM
Cigarnv - quite possibly! I only hear the horror stories. Hardly anyone comes back to Dunhill with a success story. I gotta admit though, they're great looking lighters!

DFW
February 22, 2002, 01:38 AM
I have 3 Dunhill Rollgas (2 of which I've had for over 20 years), a Dupont table model and a Ligne 2. I use the Dunhills on pipes, the table model for show and the Ligne 2 for cigars. The Dunhills are less expensive,lighter, take up less space and are MUCH easier and cheaper to refill. With heavy use, which mine got when I smoked mostly pipes, the Dunhill will require a $50-60 overhaul (in the old days, Dunhill would overhaul at no charge) from time to time. As said above, the Dunhill has a narrower flame than the Ligne 2, but it is fine for cigars. The Ligne 2, with the double, or wider, flame is better for cigars, it has a nice heft and it has PING! So, which to choose? The one with the big tits of course,
lol. Seriously, if I had to choose one for use with cigars, I'd do what I did and buy the Ligne 2, but I think reasonable people can differ on this, and buying the Dunhill wound not be a mistake.

Dave75061
February 23, 2002, 10:09 AM
I have a 30 year old rollgas that I had a pipe burner installed on it last overhaul. A little cranky but it works well on pipes. I also have a L1 half size with a cigar burner. Less weight but also less ping. Holds a lot of gas for the size. I can get an entire gold can in it. The dupont overall is a better lighter. Just my .02

Alan
February 23, 2002, 10:33 PM
I would go for the Dunhill Unqiue with the optional wide cigar flame. A classic. Spring for the optional leather case, and you have a classic ensemble. Understated, timeless design lighter that works first time, everytime.

The allure of the Dupont "ping" somehow escapes me and they are heavy as a rock in your pocket. For me, the Dupont is a high priced albeit exceptionally-made lighter without the heritage and "personality" of a Dunhill. The Dunhill Unique is just too good to pass up. Unfortunately, in the States choice of models can be scarce.

John
February 23, 2002, 10:36 PM
What horror stories Brandon? You need to quantify. I hear comments like this on this board now and then providing little basis for fact. I own both the Dunhill and the Dupont. I prefer the Dunhill too.

Brandon
February 24, 2002, 01:34 AM
John - One of the many complaints and return-for-repair jobs for Dunhill lighters are the misaligned lids due to over use of the opening and closing mechanism. It seems the people bringing them back like to open and close the lighter...to actually light something, or just to play with the thing. Perhaps this is not unique to just the Dunhill line, perhaps it happens to the Dupont's as well. Now is where the real horror begins. <br> <br>
Dunhill merchandise in need of repair must go through the following<br><br>1. All Dunhill merchandise MUST be physically taken to and accepted by a Dunhill boutique. (ie no parcels by USPS or UPS or FEDEx allowed. There are only about 8 Dunhill boutiques in the entire U.S. Go see if your city has one.)<br>2. The Dunhill lighters have a limited 2 year warrenty so you'd better pray like hell it breaks before your 2 years are up. After that,...HORROR ($$$).<br>3. Manufacturer recommends general overhaul once every 2 years...servicing that is NOT covered by warranty - ($$$). (for all of those that hadn't and it's still working for you,... SCORE!!! <IMG SRC='/cf4/images/smiley/smiley01.gif' BORDER=0 WIDTH=15 HEIGHT=15> )<br>4. Adjustment of the factory setting flame height screw located at the bottom of the lighter (not the one located on the side of the lid) will render warranty null and void. <br>5. Any adjustments by unauthorized persons will render warranty null and void. (People try the cheaper route and have their local jeweler work on the Dunhill merchandise. When the jewelers fail, they put it back together,...fine and dandy. When the Dunhill guys open it up,...they can tell. In one case, the Dunhill service center techs could even pinpoint and name WHO PERFORMED and WHERE the unauthorized servicing was provided. Null and void on the warranty. $$$)

I'm not saying that Dunhill is bad. In fact, rather, I think they're bad-ass. All I'm saying is that you'd have to ask what purpose you have for the lighter.<br> Say you were in the market for a car and you'll only drive the car within a 5 mile radius of your house, take the kids to school, and drop grandpa off at the local VFW. Perhaps that two-seater Ferrari that can reach a top speed of 170mph and go 0-60 in 4.1 seconds may not be the best choice. Sure, it'll get the job done, but maybe not the best choice. Now if you're living in Germany right next to the autobahn,.....GAME ON!!! <IMG SRC='/cf4/images/smiley/smiley01.gif' BORDER=0 WIDTH=15 HEIGHT=15> <br><br>I'm just relaying what I hear about the problems other people have about the lighters. My GF is the one that deal with these customers and many times deliver the bad news.

cigarnv
February 24, 2002, 08:16 AM
Let me assure you from first hand experience that you can mail a Dunhill lighter in for repair. I purchased a damaged Unique at auction that I sent in to NYC for repair. Also, they will refer you to shops that repair their lighters if you ask.

TTslim
February 24, 2002, 06:53 PM
I think I'm going for a dupont what's the different between the models.

cigarnv
February 24, 2002, 07:38 PM
$200-300

TTslim
February 24, 2002, 10:46 PM
LOL that's it?

Brandon
February 25, 2002, 03:21 AM
Very interesting cigarnv. I was under the impression from Alfred Dunhill America that this wasn't a possiblity but I guess not. Damn...all this talk about cool lighters has got me in the mood to go ligher shopping! I just wish I could afford ANY one of 'em. I just use a trifecta and torch the damn thing! <IMG SRC='/cf4/images/smiley/smiley01.gif' BORDER=0 WIDTH=15 HEIGHT=15>

cigarnv
February 25, 2002, 08:59 AM
Brandon, the best part about the products we are discussing...they are both excellent and in the end it boils down to personal preference. In the end a $.49 disposable is just as effective in reaching the end result!!

As a side note I think the best bang for the buck is the iII Corona Double Corona..great classic lighter, reasonable price and a wide double flame.....

TheMuskyDude
February 26, 2002, 12:04 PM
Ligne 1 - cheapest line, no ping, so wh bother? <IMG SRC='/cf4/images/smiley/smiley02.gif' BORDER=0 WIDTH=15 HEIGHT=15>


Gatsby - smaller lighters, pings, if you like a smaller version these are nice. Can pickup the non laquered ones fairly cheap


Ligne 2 - the creme dela creme, pings, large size, etc. Most expensive.


My black/palladium Ligne2 lists for $760 to give you an example, but I paid nowhere near that. You need to shop around.

DFW
February 27, 2002, 12:13 AM
Dunhill In NYC doesn't do repairs. They send the lighters 2 blocks away to a company called Authorized Repair Service at 30 W.57th St. After I discovered this (I forget how), I dealt directly with Authorized. I don't remember if I saved any money, but I got the job done a week sooner by not having the lighter sent back and forth. I should add, I used to have one or another lighter overhauled every year. I haven't had one overhauled since '98 because the one I bought then hasn't had any problems, but it has had much less usage becuase I smoke more cigars these days.

In the old days, i.e. sometime in the '80's, I had a Dunhill overhauled at no cost at Dunhill in NYC and, on the spot, at no cost, in 15 minutes at Dunhill in Paris.

Brandon
July 1, 2002, 11:45 PM
Topped for reference! <IMG SRC='/cf4/images/smiley/smiley01.gif' BORDER=0 WIDTH=15 HEIGHT=15>