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edng
March 18, 2007, 11:21 AM
sorry, need some help researching this name.... picked up a bundle of 16 these lonsdales at the airport Duty Free cigar store earlier this week.

Google turned out very little information

thanks in advance

RedFlash
March 18, 2007, 11:28 AM
<font color="#dd0000"><B>Looks like they could actually have some age on them, things have changed a bit since they were named that. Most articles I read said they are now Black Cat Cigar company. Here's a little about the cigars themselves. <a href="http://www.internetcigarsales.com/catalog/cigars-occidental-c-21_128.html" target=_blank>Link</a>

AmbassadorP
March 18, 2007, 11:40 AM
Yep, could be the corona. Medium blended seconds with some Piloto Cubano, San Vicente, Indonesian and Olor tobaccos with Connecticut Broadleaf wrapper & binder. Bundles $1.5 to $3 range. Seems cappy would know about the $2 fuma...<IMG SRC='/cf4/images/smiley/smiley02.gif' BORDER=0 WIDTH=15 HEIGHT=15><br /><br /><table border="0"><tr></tr></table>

edng
March 18, 2007, 11:46 AM
thanks for the information Red... ok the bundle is sitting in front of me now.... lets see

It says 'Bundle Selection'
'Lonsdale'
'16 Cigars Long Filler'
'Handmade in the Dominican Republic' 'Occidental Cigars Santiago'
a seal of guarantee is at the bottom 'Republica Dominica Sello De Garantia'

Saleslady said this firm also produces for Davidoff ....???

edng
March 18, 2007, 11:47 AM
thanks Ambassador, info appreciated

AmbassadorP
March 18, 2007, 11:50 AM
Saleslady said that, because these are seconds from a factory of Hendrik Kelner, the maker of Davidoff and Avo. Marketing 101..lol <br /><br /><table border="0"><tr></tr></table>

edng
March 18, 2007, 11:54 AM
anyway....just broke open the bundle... all smokes are individually celloed ... and I dont think they got much age on them... the cello are as clear as glass and no sign of yellowing ...hahaha! Red had my hopes up for a few minutes!

Will torch one next week and see how that turns out!

edng
March 18, 2007, 12:00 PM
"seconds from a factory of Hendrik Kelner, the maker of Davidoff and Avo"

at 2.80 a stick, I'm can't complain <IMG SRC='/cf4/images/smiley/smiley01.gif' BORDER=0 WIDTH=15 HEIGHT=15>

AmbassadorP
March 18, 2007, 12:11 PM
True, Ed on the low price incentive. Could be recent ones if does not have the Kelner name that was on them when first released. The line started in 99-2000. From davidoff, the blend is totally different, factory is different, blended in seconds, just the common item being a cigar, lol, and the maker, Kelner.

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Cozy
March 18, 2007, 01:08 PM
If you like, here ya go: http://www.famous-smoke.com/cigars/search/sr.cfm/st/search

edng
March 19, 2007, 01:10 PM
Torched one today. The wrapper is very light brown in color. A little bumpy but overall, lovely construction.

The smoke itself drew well and was mild to medium bodied .... pleasant to smoke. No harshness with good tobacco flavors and nothing complicated.

The ash held very well and was very whitish

DanRichmond
March 19, 2007, 11:24 PM
Occidental is a Hendrik Kelner blended cigar line marketed by Alec Bradley Cigars.

JJ
March 20, 2007, 08:23 AM
I've smoked a few of the Occidental Havana Sun Grown Toros, not a bad cigar for lawn time, cheap and a real decent taste.