[alwayssmokin]

Several have mentioned missing them but I have no idea what the majority think. I have always enjoyed them but it can only work if enough people participate.

What say ye??

Yay of Nay??

[d2d4]

In my early days of membership I donated far more than I was ever able to afford to win, which was cool because I loved participating in some small way. I think when all the really HTFs started becoming easily obtainable in LV if you have the coin, a ton of interest died. Some of the auctions Ric orchestrated were nothing short of fantastic!

Ahhhhh the good old days!

[ChiTown_Huck]

I would love to see an auction happen. Problem for me is being able to win one of the auctions.

[ChampBoat]

Personally, I prefer to buy my cigars at 1/4 the price and send CCF a check

[SAF]

Go for it, it gives us more stuff to surf on the site.

[Docbarry]

When we started having auctions back in 1999 the membership was quite different. We had a number of retailers and even some manufacturers (Not F-N) coming to the boards. The items were auctioned for reasonable prices and a lot of money was raised.

The last few auctions seemed to be bidding wars between the haves and the have nots with the haves outbidding by quite a lot.

[PSU OpusX]

Originally Posted by Docbarry

The last few auctions seemed to be bidding wars between the haves and the have nots with the haves outbidding by quite a lot.

I agree Doc. One of the first auctions that I saw was when I joined CF. I thought I would able to win some auctions as I was a young buck chasing the uber hard chit. I was blown away of how much some of the bids ended so friggin high.

I am down as putting together a donation as I need to thin the herd.

[NJLimoDriver]

Originally Posted by ChampBoat

Personally, I prefer to buy my cigars at 1/4 the price and send CFCF a check

fixee and agree

[alwayssmokin]

Good information so far. Appears there is a need for quite a few smaller lots so more people can be involved. Keep the suggestions coming.

[FlyFish]

Originally Posted by Docbarry

When we started having auctions back in 1999 the membership was quite different. We had a number of retailers and even some manufacturers (Not F-N) coming to the boards. The items were auctioned for reasonable prices and a lot of money was raised.

The last few auctions seemed to be bidding wars between the haves and the have nots with the haves outbidding by quite a lot.

I agree with Doc's perspective but speaking as a definite have-not I'm OK with it. I get a kick out of watching the action.

[rollout]

Have some raffle items.

Bill

[mrsea]

Originally Posted by alwayssmokin

Several have mentioned missing them but I have no idea what the majority think. I have always enjoyed them but it can only work if enough people participate.

What say ye??

Yay of Nay??

Yay!

[grateful1]

I have three Forbidden X 13 I'd be willing to supply!

[Fuente Fan]

I have Carlos's boxers.

[beparrish]

Originally Posted by Fuente Fan

I have Carlos's boxers and a stash of Flor de Baloneys.

fix.t.

[grateful1]

Originally Posted by Fuente Fan

I have Carlos's boxers.

Are they signed?

[BrooklynNYCigarLover]

Ye!

[beparrish]

Originally Posted by Fuente Fan

I have Carlos's boxers.

Originally Posted by grateful1

Are they signed?

Seeing that Brad is getting up in years, I would suspect that they are not signed, just soiled.

[beparrish]

Originally Posted by Docbarry

The last few auctions seemed to be bidding wars between the haves and the have nots with the haves outbidding by quite a lot.

This has been my experience with the few auctions that occured after I joined here. But that is no reason not to do it, because to me, the purpose is to raise money for CFCF, not put HTF cigars into my humidor.

If the auction raises a lot of money for the kids and I get shut out, I'm not bothered in the least.

However, I do recall that the last big auction here had a caveat for those with less funds. They offered a 2pk of cigars (Opus Lancero and Diamond Crown Maximus Perfecto) for $50 to the first 100 folks who responded. That was a nice touch, and allowed those with less discretionary funds to still participate.

And heck, you can always be like those guys on "Storage Wars" and just drive the bidding up for those folks that you don't like.

[moki]

Originally Posted by ChampBoat

Personally, I prefer to buy my cigars at 1/4 the price and send CCF a check

Certainly an option... but a public auction tends to get more people involved in the cause, either as participants or observers... which is always a good thing for a charity.

[Wanger]

As has been stated by others...the "have nots" tend not to be able to get involved much. Unfortunately, I'm one of those. I'd love to be able to be more involved in the auctions, but I don't have much that's worth putting up for auction, and the way the bids increase, I'm out of it before it even starts.

[Philly Smoker]

Some suggestions to keep others involved:
Raffle
Have a few blind lots - don't announce what it in them, just the number of sticks. Assuming the price wouldn't go too high for these.

[SRex]

Originally Posted by beparrish

However, I do recall that the last big auction here had a caveat for those with less funds. They offered a 2pk of cigars (Opus Lancero and Diamond Crown Maximus Perfecto) for $50 to the first 100 folks who responded. That was a nice touch, and allowed those with less discretionary funds to still participate.

This happened at several of the auctions and worked out great. It was the only item I've ever won in the CFCF auctions!

[ChampBoat]

Originally Posted by moki

Certainly an option... but a public auction tends to get more people involved in the cause, either as participants or observers... which is always a good thing for a charity.

I agree

[Fuente Fan]

Originally Posted by beparrish

Seeing that Brad is getting up in years, I would suspect that they are not signed, just soiled.

And they could be in your hands soon!

[alwayssmokin]

Originally Posted by SRex

This happened at several of the auctions and worked out great. It was the only item I've ever won in the CFCF auctions!

Maybe come up with 100-150 $50 packs and exclude anyone who wins an auction from getting one in order to allow those who didn't win an auction to be able to participate?

[Edman]

Originally Posted by rollout

Have some raffle items.

Bill

This

Originally Posted by alwayssmokin

Maybe come up with 100-150 $50 packs and exclude anyone who wins an auction from getting one in order to allow those who didn't win an auction to be able to participate?

and this.

[family guy]

YAY!

[insight]

Originally Posted by alwayssmokin

Maybe come up with 100-150 $50 packs and exclude anyone who wins an auction from getting one in order to allow those who didn't win an auction to be able to participate?

Good idea!

[norton]

Let the masses vote on a custom-made vitola. Make the said vitola. Offer the vitola in exchange for a donation to CFCF. Ship vitola to Newman. Distribute from there.

Bundles of 20 for $200 donation. Some CFers wil buy 10 bundles and some will go halfsies to get 10 sticks each.

Only available to members of the site that partook in the vote of the winning vitola.

I vote Centro Fino Lancero.

[family guy]

DC Julius Caeser Lancero

[alwayssmokin]

Not sure how long it would take to get cigars made

[petecaps]

Originally Posted by moki

Certainly an option... but a public auction tends to get more people involved in the cause, either as participants or observers... which is always a good thing for a charity.

Agreed.

Now, will you come back to Tokyo. I can only do so much...

[Judge Vitola]

Originally Posted by alwayssmokin

Maybe come up with 100-150 $50 packs and exclude anyone who wins an auction from getting one in order to allow those who didn't win an auction to be able to participate?

Not sure about this one. Possibly exclude until the auction's end. Then if there are any left, allow those who did win auctions to partake on a first come, first served basis. In any event, to permanently exclude based solely on the ability to win another auction seems, well, un-American.

". . . after all, we are not communists." Don Barzini, The Godfather

[BrooklynNYCigarLover]

Bottom line this is about donating to charity! If there is a cigar you want put up an ISO and maybe you'll get lucky. If you want to donate you can just do it here http://cf-cf.org/info/index.php?opti...d=55&Itemid=98 In an auction like this some regular released cigars will sell for 2x 3x 4x 5x there msrp. Its about raising money for the charity not buying cigars!! Haves have nots whatever you shouldnt be upset you couldnt "donate" because you can!!! If not monetarily spread the word of what CFCF is!!!!!!

[petecaps]

Originally Posted by BrooklynNYCigarLover

Bottom line this is about donating to charity! If there is a cigar you want put up an ISO and maybe you'll get lucky. If you want to donate you can just do it here http://cf-cf.org/info/index.php?opti...d=55&Itemid=98 In an auction like this some regular released cigars will sell for 2x 3x 4x 5x there msrp. Its about raising money for the charity not buying cigars!! Haves have nots whatever you shouldnt be upset you couldnt "donate" because you can!!! If not monetarily spread the word of what CFCF is!!!!!!

STFU and get to work making my sausage!!!

[norton]

Hollan, they could be interactive. Post a clip of them choosing the tabac, then another clip of the sorters, and yet another of the rollers, etc. It would be kind of cool to watch your own private cigars being made. It would get the F&N folks on CF more. It would allow those that have never been to the DR to get an inside (although video) look. It would allow those who never donated to be able to donate. It would make the winning vitola something truly special - created by the Board for the good of the children.

[alwayssmokin]

Originally Posted by Judge Vitola

Not sure about this one. Possibly exclude until the auction's end. Then if there are any left, allow those who did win auctions to partake on a first come, first served basis. In any event, to permanently exclude based solely on the ability to win another auction seems, well, un-American.

". . . after all, we are not communists." Don Barzini, The Godfather

Overruled!! LOL

Works for me, I don't make the rules just getting ideas/suggestions out there so those that do can see what CFers are thinking.

[alwayssmokin]

Originally Posted by norton

Hollan, they could be interactive. Post a clip of them choosing the tabac, then another clip of the sorters, and yet another of the rollers, etc. It would be kind of cool to watch your own private cigars being made. It would get the F&N folks on CF more. It would allow those that have never been to the DR to get an inside (although video) look. It would allow those who never donated to be able to donate. It would make the winning vitola something truly special - created by the Board for the good of the children.

Got it, again I don't make the rules. Drew posted an Auction might be possible if there was enough interest so I posted a thread to test the waters. Its also a good way to get ideas to make it better. Thanks for the idea.

[XTR]

Originally Posted by norton

Let the masses vote on a custom-made vitola. Make the said vitola. Offer the vitola in exchange for a donation to CFCF. Ship vitola to Newman. Distribute from there.

Bundles of 20 for $200 donation. Some CFers wil buy 10 bundles and some will go halfsies to get 10 sticks each.

Only available to members of the site that partook in the vote of the winning vitola.

I vote Centro Fino Lancero.

If it was decided today it would be 2112 before the boxes/bands were ready. I won't live that long.

[norton]

Wade - they'd be aged though.

[codeyf]

Originally Posted by norton

Hollan, they could be interactive. Post a clip of them choosing the tabac, then another clip of the sorters, and yet another of the rollers, etc. It would be kind of cool to watch your own private cigars being made. It would get the F&N folks on CF more. It would allow those that have never been to the DR to get an inside (although video) look. It would allow those who never donated to be able to donate. It would make the winning vitola something truly special - created by the Board for the good of the children.

Some great ideas here, this one taking the cake. It would definitely be bad ass to "follow my cigars" through the whole process. But the timing would be difficult, as for me, patience isn't one of my virtues.

[Wanger]

Originally Posted by alwayssmokin

Not sure how long it would take to get cigars made

Not as long as it would take to get the boxes made.

[hoffman]

No boxes needed, just bundle them with a ribbon and wrap them in foil.

[tradusir]

What Wanger said in #21 above...

[norton]

Just thought it would be cool for F&N folks to get more involved in CF website. We could meet some of the rollers (on video).

[WAYCIGARS]

Lots of good ideas.

It could be that once you bid, you can't bid on another lot til auction is over.
Set sale is better. Have a few cigars or lots. Tony did this, and it seemed fair.

The problem here is a lot of CFers want or need to buy well below MSRP. That's cool. But doesn't raise a lot of funds.

The rollers idea is great. Bid on a rolled stick, you see in a video. I like that too.
It's all worth another try.

By the by, I need a football. LOL

[Tuse]

Originally Posted by WAYCIGARS

Lots of good ideas.

It could be that once you bid, you can't bid on another lot til auction is over.
Set sale is better. Have a few cigars or lots. Tony did this, and it seemed fair.

The problem here is a lot of CFers want or need to buy well below MSRP. That's cool. But doesn't raise a lot of funds.

The rollers idea is great. Bid on a rolled stick, you see in a video. I like that too.
It's all worth another try.

By the by, I need a football. LOL

In over 10 years I've never seen an auction where any cigar went under MSRP. Usually several times MSRP.

[garHead]

all in.

IT'S FOR THE KIDS RIGHT!

[LigeroBoy82]

I'm in as long as we aren't bidding on a date with Len.

[ncohafmuta]

the raffle is an interesting idea to try. do one a month. maybe a 5 pack of something special we can get from FN. doesn't have to be super rare or anything. everybody that's interested does their $20 donation (or whatever) during the month. organizer collects confirmation #s from the donation and corresponding usernames. puts 'em in a hat at the end of the month and yanks one out.
kind of roll it in with PostOTM and PicOTM.
if there's enough money being made to cover it, maybe those that didn't win in 1 month get their numbers automatically entered in the next, i dont know, 2 raffles.
i'd run it if enough people thought it was a good idea.

-Tony

[family guy]

Originally Posted by WAYCIGARS

The problem here is a lot of CFers want or need to buy well below MSRP. That's cool. But doesn't raise a lot of funds.

All because people will not pay YOU 3x MSRP for your crap doesn't mean they won't for a charity auction. If the auction were half of what was years ago. The result would be outstanding.

I also think Case Fuente has cut into some of the excitement as you can now purchase there, what was so hard to find before.

[Fuente Fan]

Originally Posted by XTR

If it was decided today it would be 2112 before the boxes/bands were ready. I won't live that long.

If we did this on OLH we could get 3X the money

Originally Posted by norton

Just thought it would be cool for F&N folks to get more involved in CF website. We could meet some of the rollers (on video).

Nick ask someone like Wade how much time he has to be on his website? As far as meeting to rollers, you have that option each each CFC is in the DR. Not saying this isn't good, just saying there is a lot more involved here in making this happen than you think.

[XTR]

It would be interesting; but I have a suspicion that the internet cigar community today is not what it was when the CF auctions were last held, and the return may not be a great as you would expect. We were on the tail end of a boom, there were a lot of people who were new to cigars, or had re-discovered them. Do you recall back in 2000/1001 people would wait up till midnight when registration opened to make sure that the got a spot at CFC. Not so much today.

I also think that to some extent people have been burned out on special editions. Back when Carlito was making stuff for the auctions nobody had ever seen anything like the stuff he was rolling, they truely were special, and the people who were copying him were making crap.

Today there are limited editions up the arse, I think everything Pete Johnson has rolled may be a limited edition (I guess he'll run out of shapes/packages eventually), and there are fewer people willing to toss out hard cash for something that they will never smoke (Moki excepted). Part of the "je ne sais quoi" of the unreleased stuff was to share it, show it off if you will, with people when you got together at herfs. When's the last time you got together for a herf? Ten yrs ago we were doing it from New Hampshire to La Jolla to Seattle.



Please don't misunderstand me, I'd love to see another auction that raised 10s of thousands for the CFCF but I think the passion may have waned, at least for now.

[norton]

Originally Posted by ncohafmuta

the raffle is an interesting idea to try. do one a month. maybe a 5 pack of something special we can get from FN. doesn't have to be super rare or anything. everybody that's interested does their $20 donation (or whatever) during the month. organizer collects confirmation #s from the donation and corresponding usernames. puts 'em in a hat at the end of the month and yanks one out.
kind of roll it in with PostOTM and PicOTM.
if there's enough money being made to cover it, maybe those that didn't win in 1 month get their numbers automatically entered in the next, i dont know, 2 raffles.
i'd run it if enough people thought it was a good idea.

-Tony

Did the raffle years ago for a well. I think almost 85% of ticket buyers won something. Seemed like a fair way to do it. If someone does a raffle, I'll donate some smokes. BTW - do folks still like Casa Magnas around here?

[norton]

Originally Posted by XTR

It would be interesting; but I have a suspicion that the internet cigar community today is not what it was when the CF auctions were last held, and the return may not be a great as you would expect. We were on the tail end of a boom, there were a lot of people who were new to cigars, or had re-discovered them. Do you recall back in 2000/1001 people would wait up till midnight when registration opened to make sure that the got a spot at CFC. Not so much today.

I also think that to some extent people have been burned out on special editions. Back when Carlito was making stuff for the auctions nobody had ever seen anything like the stuff he was rolling, they truely were special, and the people who were copying him were making crap.

Today there are limited editions up the arse, I think everything Pete Johnson has rolled may be a limited edition (I guess he'll run out of shapes/packages eventually), and there are fewer people willing to toss out hard cash for something that they will never smoke (Moki excepted). Part of the "je ne sais quoi" of the unreleased stuff was to share it, show it off if you will, with people when you got together at herfs. When's the last time you got together for a herf? Ten yrs ago we were doing it from New Hampshire to La Jolla to Seattle.



Please don't misunderstand me, I'd love to see another auction that raised 10s of thousands for the CFCF but I think the passion may have waned, at least for now.

Good post. Except for the Pete thing - everything he makes is limited because he is a boutique. Remember Moore & Bode? Boutique baby. LOL

[Bman925]

I'm a bit mixed up. Are we talking about having Fuente make a series of cigars and offering them to auction, or are we talking about cf members putting lots together from their own collections?

I know that in the last year or so there was at least one instance where someone put up some rare sticks with the proceeds going to cigar family. I won them.

I'm up for it either way. I just wouldn't want to over complicate things. I'd say just put up lots in the auction room, set a time limit and have at it like at the auction tables at any fund raiser you go to.

[WAYCIGARS]

Originally Posted by grateful1

I have three Forbidden X 13 I'd be willing to supply!

That's great, you found some more. As a few peeps said ya'll would.

[WAYCIGARS]

[QUOTE=family guy;3608247]All because people will not pay YOU 3x MSRP for your crap doesn't mean they won't for a charity auction. If the auction were half of what was years ago. The result would be outstanding.

Fact is that nothing I sold here was even close to 2 times the MSRP. Based on what I paid, for the record!

[ncohafmuta]

Originally Posted by Bman925

I'm a bit mixed up. Are we talking about having Fuente make a series of cigars and offering them to auction, or are we talking about cf members putting lots together from their own collections?

I'm starting to think more the former.
Anybody can pretty much do their own auction with their own sticks whenever they want, just check with Drew first.

I think most though are talking something bigger.
I wasn't talking in the 10s of thousands of dollars, but more of a recurring one that made a couple hundred a month. Even one a quarter at the minimum.

-Tony

[opusXmarco]

Hollan,

Maybe we can do the auction inconjunction with a donation, like we discussed during CFC. Since not everyone can partake in the auction due to limited funds, say we ad a donation and the TShirt deal.

Say you have a budget and you bid, you're then outbid and no longer in your budget,
but then you can make a donation and get a t-shirt...either way you still partake and feel good about doing something good.

Just an idea.

[opusXmarco]

I wish they had an 'edit' button...ugh!

[mrsea]

F+N should bring another auction on asap.
I will do my best to gather the most $ for CFC.Whether it be by donating a lot,OR sweetining the lot to stimulate higher bidding.

All about the kids in D.R.

Hollan,as you know,this takes an enormous chunk of time for the host.
Is it possible for someone from either the Newman,or Fuente group to spare a Drew Jr. to handle the cyberwork?

[Ric Web]

Thanks for the kind note Weckworth!


The auctions we have run over the years (since I joined 11 years ago) have raised over $200,000 just from Paducah.

I would be delighted to partner with my good friend Hollan to run another, and believe if there are enough smaller LOTS then everybody can contribute. We should also do Raffle LOTS and ANYBODY can buy lots......I bet I can get Rich to assist with some nice donations :-)

Just let me know :-)

I started doing the Thanksgiving Day auctions to capture the THANKSGIVING SPIRIT, and it grew into a monster...with a life of it's own!

I will be the INBOUND location for any donations, and have the capacity to store them and the proven track record of delivering post auction........which is ALWAYS an important piece!

[alwayssmokin]

Originally Posted by mrsea

Hollan,as you know,this takes an enormous chunk of time for the host. Is it possible for someone from either the Newman,or Fuente group to spare a Drew Jr. to handle the cyberwork?

John, I have no idea. Drew just posted on my other thread that if there was interest in an auction he would talk to Rich D. All I am doing at this point is testing the waters for interest (which their appears to be). If the F/Ns decide they are interested in having an auction I am sure the details of getting it done could be worked out. I'm willing to help in any way I can and I know there are many more who would volunteer. You are absolutely correct that doing an auction is a big commitment.

[Ric Web]

Big challenge? YES

BIG success? Almost always

Good cause? Really?....:-)

[alwayssmokin]

Originally Posted by Ric Web

Big challenge? YES
BIG success? Almost always
Good cause? Really?....:-)

Well look who the cat drug in! LOL Looks like Ric is pumped about another "Epic Auction" as he so eloquently put it in an SS to me a few minutes ago.

Ladies and Gentlemen, this thing may have legs!

[Ric Web]

I don't do that crazy auction talk, but I can galvanize the party!

I'll call Rich and tell him the Drew said he should donate tons of stuff! :-)

[alwayssmokin]

Originally Posted by Ric Web

I don't do that crazy auction talk, but I can galvanize the party!

I'll call Rich and tell him the Drew said he should donate tons of stuff! :-)

LOL