[caddye]

I would have thought their would have been a lot of cheering here after the Bush Business Court gave free reigns to corporations to buy every election from here on out. Maybe we can now do away with all laws and regulations applying to US business and get down to some good ole capitalism. This court descion will be added to the list of things Bush did to become the worst President ever.

[ShortStory]

Originally Posted by caddye

I would have thought their would have been a lot of cheering here after the Bush Business Court gave free reigns to corporations to buy every election from here on out. Maybe we can now do away with all laws and regulations applying to US business and get down to some good ole capitalism. This court descion will be added to the list of things Bush did to become the worst President ever.

I thought Bammy was Pres? My bad~!

[ChampBoat]

Originally Posted by ShortStory

I thought Bammy was Pres? My bad~!

Erkel's minions will be blaming Bush for his entire term.

[EsqTed]

Corporations and unions (yep, the same unions that now own the White House...)

[Edman]

The only cheering I heard today was from Congress after they raised the national debt ceiling another $1.9 trillion.

[XTR]

Sometimes our rights are used by people with whom we disagree or in ways we may not like; however, that doesn't make them any less entitled to those rights.

I don't cheer the decision, but I think it was the right one.

[petecaps]

No need to applaud common sense....or is there??

[atrich]

Dumbass thread of the year. Congrats.

[caddye]

You'll regret it come election time! LOL And of course it is Bush's fault, a pro business court could/will do more harm to the country over time than even Bush did.

[petecaps]

Why do you hate freedom of speech. Very unAmerican of you.

[Bluto]

I know George W. is responsible for the economy, high unemployment, terrorism, unsightly liverspots, sunspots, poor public education, this last snowstorm, badbreath, the most recent outrageous government budget and huge deficit spending (released by Chairman Maobama), and overall sadness. The only way out is crushing nonsustainable socialism (hope and change).

[Billsmokin]

LOL @ maobama!

[Garzilla]

Originally Posted by ShortStory

I thought Bammy was Pres? My bad~!

Wow...I guess that's not a racial slur in your eyes eh David? A derogatory comment like that with such obvious racial overtones should automatically disqualify you & your racist opinion from any further discussion about the POTUS or any politics what-so-ever. Your last name isn't "Duke" by chance is it?

Originally Posted by ChampBoat

Erkel's minions will be blaming Bush for his entire term.

I really don't get the "Erkel" reference some of you on the Right keep eluding to...is it his ears or something more along the lines of his skin color? Which is it? Cause' when I think of Erkel, I think of his nerdiness & big glasses (which if you haven't noticed, President Obama doesn't wear). So which is it? Seriously. I'd really like to understand the comparrison you're making. And if you'll remember, by the end of the show Erkel always seemed to come out on top. So maybe it's just your subconcious way of supporting our President. C'mon...admit it...you're a 'closet' Obama lover aren't you?

Originally Posted by Bluto

I know George W. is responsible for nothing...

fix.t...
at least as far as the "George W. minions" are concerned, right?

Originally Posted by Bluto

Chairman Maobama

LOL...Now 'that one' is truly funny. While still derogatory, at least it's a politcal comparison and not a racial slur.

Obviously many here don't like President Obama. And the reasons clearly vary from some just having differing politcal opinions, to others who are just plain racists. You want to talk politics? Fine...let's talk politics. But before we do, shove all of the racial slurs & comments up your respective asses so there's no misunderstanding about why you don't like the President.

And for the record, as much as I disliked President G.W. Bush &/or disagreed w/his policies (& I did), the thought never once crossed my mind to call him "cracker," or "whitey," or any other racially charged cutzie little pet name like some of you have for our current ELECTED POTUS.

And BTW...you don't like the President, so be it. But I get really sick and tired of so many people disrespecting the Office that he holds and what that Office represents. If you ask me (which no one did), that's just as un-American as not voting.

So to those of you here who actually have valid arguments/disagreements/opinions, sweet. Keep on keepin' on. But to the obvious and deliberate POS racists, you are totaly welcome to GFYselves. Or at least try to speak with a less offensive vocabulary.

Now you know why I rarely enter the 'Political" room...too many punks.

[Bluto]

Referring to our President as a Communist (in a joking fashion) is NOT racist. President B.O. is clearly for "social justice" and promised to radically change our society. Cap and trade, socialized medicine (i.e. single payor), union card check, buying banks, penalizing banks after they have repaid loans, buying GM to the advantage of the UAW over bond holders, carving out benefits for unions over non-union people, the "Louisiana purchase," Cornhusker kickback"...these are all examples of taking money earned from one group of society and giving it to another. To me, this man is a SOCIALIST/STATIST. My remark in neither derogatory nor racist. I just think his whole agenda runs against the American ideal of rugged individualism. The most frustrating thing as a conservative is that you cannot argue with a progressive...progressives by-and-large believe that all conservatives are stupid and/or racist, thereby making any exchange of ideas impossible (there is a good article about this in the Washington Post from last week).
The Progressives own the White House, Senate, and House and cannot pass their agenda. Why is this? Could it be that their agenda is too far left (i.e. Socialism).

[EsqTed]

"Bammy" is a racial slur? Jeez, by pulling the race card whenever it is convenient you really lose all ability to make it worth anything when you really do come across it.

Weak sauce.

I am betting you really are too thin-skinned to be in here.

[ShortStory]

It seems the far lefts only defense is to pull the race card! WOW

As far as the POTUS, I don't think he has a freaking clue in certain areas. He also has surrounded himself with too many academic advisers not REAL world business people, IMO!

Explain this, he beats health care down our throats for a whole year while record unemployment and millions of lost jobs, who can afford health care with no income????

I guess I am a PUNK! LMAO

[XTR]

Originally Posted by Garzilla

And BTW...you don't like the President, so be it. But I get really sick and tired of so many people disrespecting the Office that he holds and what that Office represents. If you ask me (which no one did), that's just as un-American as not voting.

Where was your defense of the office for the last 8 yrs while the left called JWB everything from a monkey to a moron?

Originally Posted by Garzilla

So to those of you here who actually have valid arguments/disagreements/opinions, sweet. Keep on keepin' on. But to the obvious and deliberate POS racists, you are totaly welcome to GFYselves. Or at least try to speak with a less offensive vocabulary.

If you are desperately looking for a reason to scream "RACISM!" in comments from people you disagree with I'm can find it. You remind me of the guys who scream "ANTI-SEMITE!" at anything that anyone says that is remotely negative toward Israel or something generally associated with the Jewish community. (for the record I think Israel kicks ass and have huge respect for them) I'd say you are the one looking to re-direct the conversation away from substance to keep the light from illuminating what an awful job the messiah is dooing.

Originally Posted by Garzilla

But to the obvious and deliberate POS racists, you are totaly welcome to GFYselves. Or at least try to speak with a less offensive vocabulary.

Hey fucktard, grow up and quit being such a pussy.

[EsqTed]

called GWB everything from a monkey

LoL - forgot about that. Wonder how this would go over these days?

[Billsmokin]

Here ya go cryzilla!

[HappySmoker]

Garzilla,
your post was a very weak attempt to defend the Pres.
There was absolutely nothing racist in any of the names that Pres Erkel was called.

[Garzilla]

Originally Posted by Bluto

Referring to our President as a Communist (in a joking fashion) is NOT racist. President B.O. is clearly for "social justice" and promised to radically change our society. Cap and trade, socialized medicine (i.e. single payor), union card check, buying banks, penalizing banks after they have repaid loans, buying GM to the advantage of the UAW over bond holders, carving out benefits for unions over non-union people, the "Louisiana purchase," Cornhusker kickback"...these are all examples of taking money earned from one group of society and giving it to another. To me, this man is a SOCIALIST/STATIST. My remark in neither derogatory nor racist. I just think his whole agenda runs against the American ideal of rugged individualism. The most frustrating thing as a conservative is that you cannot argue with a progressive...progressives by-and-large believe that all conservatives are stupid and/or racist, thereby making any exchange of ideas impossible (there is a good article about this in the Washington Post from last week).
The Progressives own the White House, Senate, and House and cannot pass their agenda. Why is this? Could it be that their agenda is too far left (i.e. Socialism).

I agree w/much of what you say here. I also thought that I was pretty clear though in stating that your comment was not racist. I think it was a funny comment. It is however still derogatory as it was stated in a fashion attempting to belittle &/or denigrate the President by comparing him to Chairman Mao. And yes, some of their agenda is too far left and I disagree with a good chunk of it...especially when they are trying to take away my 1st & 2nd Amendment rights (among others). Not to mention the 'taxation without representation' issues like SCHIP & other BS tobacco taxes.

Originally Posted by EsqTed

"Bammy" is a racial slur?

How is it not a racial slur? How the hell do you get "Bammy" from Obama. "Bammy" sounds suspiciously like "mammy" which is one of the most racist words in our history, but with a "B" in front of it. If President Obama was Senator of Alabama (aka: "Bamma" or "Bammy") it might make some small amount of sense, but he was Senator of Illinois. Why haven't I heard anyone call him "Illbama" yet? There's no way for that to be misinterpreted as racist...& at least that would make sense. But since it doesn't make any sense, how else is one to take it but as a racial slur? I have no doubt that SS uses this term with full knowledge of the racial implications that might be associated with such a phrase, and that that is exactly how he intends it. He may as well have said "Sambo". You still would've know who he was referring to. But that's cool...you keep right on defending him there Esq.

Originally Posted by EsqTed

I am betting you really are too thin-skinned to be in here.

Maybe, maybe not. Just call um' as I see um'.

Originally Posted by ShortStory

It seems the far lefts only defense is to pull the race card! WOW

How or what would give you the impression that I am "far left"? Or is it just your coping mechanism that when you disagree with someone politically, they must automatically be "far lefts" right?

Originally Posted by ShortStory

As far as the POTUS, I don't think he has a freaking clue in certain areas. He also has surrounded himself with too many academic advisers not REAL world business people, IMO!

That could easily be said about the 43 Presidents that preceded him. What's your point? Or are you just trying to justify your racial pet names for him?

Originally Posted by ShortStory

Explain this, he beats health care down our throats for a whole year while record unemployment and millions of lost jobs, who can afford health care with no income????

Had he tried to tackle unemployment first you and the rest of the right would still be calling him a liar because he didn't reform health care like he promised. So what order should he have done things in? It really makes no difference because no matter which one or two issues he tried to handle first, there would still be the those on the Right whinning because he didn't do things in the order that they (as individuals) thought he should have done it in. Not to mention the fact that the Right expected President Obama to handle ALL of the issues in his first month in office. When that didn't happen (because it would've been impossible) here comes the Right slammin' his dick in the dirt because he wasn't able to miraculously turn our country around in a month. Give me a break.

Originally Posted by ShortStory

I guess I am a PUNK! LMAO

Agreed.

Originally Posted by XTR

Where was your defense of the office for the last 8 yrs while the left called JWB everything from a monkey to a moron?

Well dikweed, if you take a look at my join date you might realize that I hadn't gotten to CF yet. And if you're not smart enough (obviously not) to recognize the difference between being called a moron or a monkey vs. a racial slur than you have bigger problems than most. Never considered morons to be a race & I guess if monkeys gave a shit, they would have undoubtedly been offended by being compared to GWB. And not that you will understand this, but my defense of the office of the POTUS has not lessened or wavered one iota during or since I had the privilege of serving in our country's military. Didn't, doesn't, & won't matter who the President is.

Originally Posted by XTR

If you are desperately looking for a reason to scream "RACISM!" in comments from people you disagree with I'm can find it. You remind me of the guys who scream "ANTI-SEMITE!" at anything that anyone says that is remotely negative toward Israel or something generally associated with the Jewish community. (for the record I think Israel kicks ass and have huge respect for them) I'd say you are the one looking to re-direct the conversation away from substance to keep the light from illuminating what an awful job the messiah is dooing.

Desperately? Don't think so. If you can't see it then maybe you have the same problem as SS & Ted. Glad to know that "you'm can find it" though. LOL!
And really? You found substance in this thread? I mean with the exception of the first post, where the hell did you find anything of "substance" in this thread? Please point it out so we can see what you consider substance. LMFAO!
BTW...messiah is a term coined by the Right, not the Left. But at least you r spell "doing" good.

Originally Posted by XTR

Hey fucktard, grow up and quit being such a pussy.

Coming from someone who is trying to defend racism...you're a joke boy. And I mean "boy" in a most derogatory way.
Kind of like trying to defend a rapist by saying 'ya, but he was horny'.

Originally Posted by HappySmoker

Garzilla,
your post was a very weak attempt to defend the Pres.
There was absolutely nothing racist in any of the names that Pres Erkel was called.

HS - I'm not trying to defend the President as much as I'm trying to defend the "Office of the President". I definately don't agree with some of his agenda but as the POTUS he deserves the respect that that Office commands. And get this...the same respect that President G.W. Bush deserved when he held that Office.
And just out of curiousity, would you (any of you) still use the same comparison if the "Erkel" show was about a white nerdy kid? Nevermind...I know the answer.

[Bluto]

That is just it, GW received no respect and no quarter from the progressive left starting day one of his Presidency. B.O. only seems to care about the rights and "woes" of his democratic constituents (the unions, acorn, progressives...etc.) and fails to realize that he is the chief of the executive branch for ALL the people...

[Billsmokin]

Originally Posted by Garzilla

I'm not trying to defend the President as much as I'm trying to defend the "Office of the President". I definately don't agree with some of his agenda but as the POTUS he deserves the respect that that Office commands. And get this...the same respect that President G.W. Bush deserved when he held that Office.

Please explain how calling Bush a super-tard (your words from another thread) is respecting the Office?

[ShortStory]

Garzilla you sure seem to be the biggest racist here the way you spin words to suit your weak racist argument. If I was a racist I would use more appropriate words than Bammy so everyone could understand! LMAO

Your racist PUNK!

[petecaps]

Originally Posted by Garzilla

Now you know why I rarely enter the 'Political" room...

cuz you're and idiot??? Just askin'

The Erkel thig is just down right funny. You obviously need to lighten up a bit.

[J.B.]

Garzilla = race baiter

[Garzilla]

Originally Posted by Billsmokin

Please explain how calling Bush a super-tard (your words from another thread) is respecting the Office?

I didn't disrespect the Office of the POTUS - President Bush no longer held that Office when I made my comment.

Originally Posted by ShortStory

Garzilla you sure seem to be the biggest racist here the way you spin words to suit your weak racist argument. If I was a racist I would use more appropriate words than Bammy so everyone could understand! LMAO
Your racist PUNK!

LMAO! Wow SS - using the 'he who smealt it dealt it' theory in this regard just makes you look stupid and racist. Talk about weak...

Originally Posted by petecaps

cuz you're and idiot??? Just askin'
The Erkel thig is just down right funny. You obviously need to lighten up a bit.

You may want to check your spelling before you post whilst calling someone else an idiot.
"need to lighten up a bit"? Yeah probably. But you still haven't answered the question about what if the "Erkel" show was about a nerdy white kid?

Originally Posted by J.B.

Garzilla = race baiter

Uh yeah...not hardly J.B. But thank you for your participation.

[petecaps]

If Erkel were a nerdy white kid he wouldn't remind most peple of Obama. Therefore it wouldn't be funny. Next.

[Billsmokin]

I didn't disrespect the Office of the POTUS - President Bush no longer held that Office when I made my comment.

Typical do as I say, not as I do response! Weak!

[J.B.]

Originally Posted by Garzilla

Uh yeah...not hardly J.B. But thank you for your participation.

Race baiting is the use of racially derisive language, actions or other forms of communication, to anger, intimidate or incite a person or groups of people, or to make those persons behave in ways that are inimical, and often harmful to their personal or group interests. Race baiting is also accomplished by implying that there is an underlying race-based motive in the actions of others towards the group baited, where none in fact exists. The term "race" in this context can be construed very broadly to include the social constructs which define race or racial difference, as well as ethnic, religious, gender and economic differences.

[MU Mike]

Originally Posted by Garzilla

I didn't disrespect the Office of the POTUS - President Bush no longer held that Office when I made my comment.

I was under the impression that once you're elected president, you're always referred to as "President (name)." While it's true Bush isn't in Office anymore, aren't you just splitting technical hairs? Isn't it still disrespectful to a President, whether sitting or not?

Also, calling anyone a retard or 'tard or some derivation thereof sure doesn't sound very nice, and is especially demeaning to any mentally handicapped person or anyone who has cared for a mentally handicapped person.

[Billsmokin]

Bingo MU Mike!

[ShortStory]

Nothing like a liberal racist to spin everything! LMAO

You know it's their only defense! SAD

[EsqTed]

How the hell do you get "Bammy" from Obama.

LoL - try OBAMA. Sort of like saying "Bushie", another favorite of the left wingers. Are you honestly saying the use of "Bammy" was a furtive reference to "Alabama" or "Sambo"? Wouldn't he than have said "Bamabama" or "Bambo"? LoL - either you are way too hung up on your own racist issues or you are race-baiting. Either way, playing the race card is weak sauce.

On this note, other terms of endearment for our current POTUS I have heard include "Errbama" (my favorite), ""Barak Hubris Obama", and the old but good "Barry", though this seems kind of close to "Harry" which is of course a reference to "Afro" and therefore a racist term so I don't use it myself.

[ShortStory]

Errbama is a good one!

[CarlSpackler]

Originally Posted by Bluto

I know George W. is responsible for the economy, high unemployment, terrorism, unsightly liverspots, sunspots, poor public education, this last snowstorm, badbreath, the most recent outrageous government budget and huge deficit spending (released by Chairman Maobama), and overall sadness. The only way out is crushing nonsustainable socialism (hope and change).

LMAO at that. Damn funny...and accurate observation.

[Garzilla]

Originally Posted by petecaps

If Erkel were a nerdy white kid he wouldn't remind most peple of Obama. Therefore it wouldn't be funny. Next.

LMAO! Exactly.

Originally Posted by Billsmokin

I didn't disrespect the Office of the POTUS - President Bush no longer held that Office when I made my comment.
Typical do as I say, not as I do response! Weak!

How do you get that? He wasn't in Office. How is that the same as you trying to cut President Obama off at the knees while he is trying to do the same unwanted and under-appreciated job that your hero GW failed so miserably at? It's not. It's not nearly the same as trying to undermine a sitting President who's saddled with the nearly impossible task of cleaning up after 8 years of the last President is it?

Originally Posted by J.B.

Race baiting is the use of racially derisive language, actions or other forms of communication, to anger, intimidate or incite a person or groups of people, or to make those persons behave in ways that are inimical, and often harmful to their personal or group interests. Race baiting is also accomplished by implying that there is an underlying race-based motive in the actions of others towards the group baited, where none in fact exists. The term "race" in this context can be construed very broadly to include the social constructs which define race or racial difference, as well as ethnic, religious, gender and economic differences.

Thank you for the enlightening cut & paste J.B. While not your own words at least it defines where you are coming from. I concede how from that definition you might get the impression that I was race baiting. I assure you that that was not my intent. To me, some of the comments made here truly sounded and still sound racist. The fact that no one here except me sees how a term like "Bammy" might be misconstrued as a racial slur is mind-numbing though.

Originally Posted by MU Mike

I was under the impression that once you're elected president, you're always referred to as "President (name)." While it's true Bush isn't in Office anymore, aren't you just splitting technical hairs? Isn't it still disrespectful to a President, whether sitting or not?

Splitting hairs? Hey Mike - you brought it up not me. And while you were searching through all of my posting history for your ammo, did you happen to notice how long ago that was &/or how many other times that I have used that term referring to "former" President GW Bush?C'mon man. There are plenty of other better candidates than me here for you to take to task with that. But then again that wouldn't be nearly as fun for you as the "piling on" theme that seems to be occurring in this thread, eh?

Originally Posted by MU Mike

Also, calling anyone a retard or 'tard or some derivation thereof sure doesn't sound very nice, and is especially demeaning to any mentally handicapped person or anyone who has cared for a mentally handicapped person.

Again Mike, you dug up an old post to use as ammo which, until' you brought it up had nothing to do with anything said in this thread. And no, it wasn't very nice. It wasn't meant to be. It also wasn't directed at the mentally handicapped or their care takers. I do, however, agree that it might be considered an offensive term to some. And if you were one who was offended by it, maybe you should've mentioned it last June when the thread was posted rather than drudge it up now to use as a convenient bait & platform for the 'holier than thou' crap.

Originally Posted by Billsmokin

Bingo MU Mike!

LMFAO!! Gosh Bill...to bad you couldn't have found those words to use.

Originally Posted by ShortStory

Nothing like a liberal racist to spin everything! LMAO
You know it's their only defense! SAD

Now your not only grasping at straws, but you've become genuinely boring.

Originally Posted by EsqTed

LoL - try OBAMA. Sort of like saying "Bushie", another favorite of the left wingers. Are you honestly saying the use of "Bammy" was a furtive reference to "Alabama" or "Sambo"? Wouldn't he than have said "Bamabama" or "Bambo"? LoL - either you are way too hung up on your own racist issues or you are race-baiting. Either way, playing the race card is weak sauce.

LMAO again! Now I know your joking. I have never heard President Bush referred to as "Bushie". And Ted, your obviously limited reading comprehension skills, seem to continue to get worse by the post. Go back and reread it if you like or maybe ask someone for some help understanding it.

Originally Posted by EsqTed

On this note, other terms of endearment for our current POTUS I have heard include "Errbama" (my favorite), ""Barak Hubris Obama", and the old but good "Barry", though this seems kind of close to "Harry" which is of course a reference to "Afro" and therefore a racist term so I don't use it myself.

And now my friend, you're just being stupid. I get the reference, but it's pretty freakin' weak...even for you.

[EsqTed]

I have never heard President Bush referred to as "Bushie".

LoL - new to politics are you? It was and still is a widely used term. Try Google.

you're just being stupid

Are you now too stupid to see satire when it smacks you in the face? Yes, it was a joke, aimed directly at you and totally at your expense.

[MU Mike]

Originally Posted by Garzilla

Splitting hairs? Hey Mike - you brought it up not me. And while you were searching through all of my posting history for your ammo, did you happen to notice how long ago that was &/or how many other times that I have used that term referring to "former" President GW Bush?C'mon man. There are plenty of other better candidates than me here for you to take to task with that. But then again that wouldn't be nearly as fun for you as the "piling on" theme that seems to be occurring in this thread, eh?

Again Mike, you dug up an old post to use as ammo which, until' you brought it up had nothing to do with anything said in this thread. And no, it wasn't very nice. It wasn't meant to be. It also wasn't directed at the mentally handicapped or their care takers. I do, however, agree that it might be considered an offensive term to some. And if you were one who was offended by it, maybe you should've mentioned it last June when the thread was posted rather than drudge it up now to use as a convenient bait & platform for the 'holier than thou' crap.

Perhaps I'm being obtuse, but when did I search through all of your old posts and dig up a post of yours? I could have sworn that was posted by Billsmokin, but what do I know?

Since you're so much smarter than I am, as evident by the tone of your posts, I guess I'll just bow out of this so you won't have to put up with my holier than thou crap (not sure where you got that, but obviously you felt threatened because you knew what you said was wrong). And instead of just saying, "yep, my bad" you to qualify it. Weak.

I was just trying to get clarification on when it's acceptable to be disrespectful to former or current presidents. This is why I don't post in the political room. Having to read condescending, know-it-all posts from people like you makes my head hurt.

[MU Mike]

Originally Posted by Garzilla

LMAO again! Now I know your joking. I have never heard President Bush referred to as "Bushie". And Ted, your obviously limited reading comprehension skills, seem to continue to get worse by the post. Go back and reread it if you like or maybe ask someone for some help understanding it.

I'm not trying to be the uber-gay grammar police, but in a situation where you're attempting to question someone's intelligence at least proofread your posts. It makes the attempt look lame otherwise.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt as it was likely just a typo or you were in a hurry to post.

[Billsmokin]

Yep, that was me that dug it up. Was just trying to prove a point that racezilla has no problem Bush bashing, yet becomes indignant over Obama nicknames. Your argument about Bush already being out of office is paper thin at best!

[ShortStory]

My post was grasping at straws and boring but you are following it to a T!

You drank the koolaide how, is Bammy working out for you?

Your boring ass PUNK! LOL

[Bluto]

Both political parties are culpable for the horrible and ruinous path on which we are currently traveling. We argue while they spend us into oblivion. Both sides know that Social Security and Medicare are unsustainable obligations. Yet neither are willing to suggest a reasonable way curb these entitlement programs. Worse yet, under W the (unfunded) prescription drug program was enacted. Even worse, B.O. wants to assume complete fiscal control and responsibility for ALL HEATHCARE. Our entire system is at risk of collapse and our elected officials do nothing. Our petty quarrel here amounts to little, might as well fiddle while Rome burns.

[ShortStory]

Originally Posted by Bluto

Both political parties are culpable for the horrible and ruinous path on which we are currently traveling. We argue while they spend us into oblivion. Both sides know that Social Security and Medicare are unsustainable obligations. Yet neither are willing to suggest a reasonable way curb these entitlement programs. Worse yet, under W the (unfunded) prescription drug program was enacted. Even worse, B.O. wants to assume complete fiscal control and responsibility for ALL HEATHCARE. Our entire system is at risk of collapse and our elected officials do nothing. Our petty quarrel here amounts to little, might as well fiddle while Rome burns.

Good post, too bad the masses have no clue what is going on, or they just don't care!

[Garzilla]

Originally Posted by MU Mike

Perhaps I'm being obtuse, but when did I search through all of your old posts and dig up a post of yours? I could have sworn that was posted by Billsmokin, but what do I know?

You're right Mike. I apologize for the misquote. It was Billsmokin who was trying to dig up the dirt.

Originally Posted by MU Mike

Since you're so much smarter than I am, as evident by the tone of your posts, I guess I'll just bow out of this so you won't have to put up with my holier than thou crap (not sure where you got that, but obviously you felt threatened because you knew what you said was wrong). And instead of just saying, "yep, my bad" you to qualify it. Weak.

I don't know that to be true Mike. Never claimed to be smarter than anyone here and certainly did not mean to insinuate that I was or that I am. In fact, if I were that smart I would've probably opted not to post on this thread at all.
As far as feeling threatened, not really. Although, some of the posters here seem to be enjoying the 'piling on' rather than trying to make a valid point. And if it makes you feel any better, I do mean this sincerely, my bad. I shouldn't have stooped to that level just because others were. Nothing personal intended toward you, just seem to be somewhat on the defensive here.

Originally Posted by MU Mike

I was just trying to get clarification on when it's acceptable to be disrespectful to former or current presidents. This is why I don't post in the political room. Having to read condescending, know-it-all posts from people like you makes my head hurt.

I don't know the answer to your question Mike, but I would suggest that it does a hell of a lot more damage for the morale of our country to disrespect a sitting President than it would with a former one.
I certainly didn't mean to come off as condescending & I most definately do not "know it all". I hope I never do as that would make me as closed-minded as some of the far Right wingnuts that frustrate me so thoroughly.

Originally Posted by MU Mike

I'm not trying to be the uber-gay grammar police, but in a situation where you're attempting to question someone's intelligence at least proofread your posts. It makes the attempt look lame otherwise.
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt as it was likely just a typo or you were in a hurry to post.

Good call. Touche'. Ironically enough I was in a hurry to get to an English class.

Originally Posted by Billsmokin

Yep, that was me that dug it up. Was just trying to prove a point that racezilla has no problem Bush bashing, yet becomes indignant over Obama nicknames. Your argument about Bush already being out of office is paper thin at best!

Yup Bill, ya got me. I made a demeaning comment about former President Bush once in a thread some eight or so months ago. I hope the hours spent finding that were worth it to you. LOL! One comment = Bush bashing...really gasping for air here, eh?
BTW...Cryzilla? Racezilla? Really? You're starting to hurt my feelings here Bill.

Originally Posted by Bluto

Both political parties are culpable for the horrible and ruinous path on which we are currently traveling. We argue while they spend us into oblivion. Both sides know that Social Security and Medicare are unsustainable obligations. Yet neither are willing to suggest a reasonable way curb these entitlement programs. Worse yet, under W the (unfunded) prescription drug program was enacted. Even worse, B.O. wants to assume complete fiscal control and responsibility for ALL HEATHCARE. Our entire system is at risk of collapse and our elected officials do nothing.

Good points Bluto. How though can our elected officials do anything when they are being opposed at every juncture, whether or not it's the appropriate or correct action? There truly is no such thing as "bipartisanship" in our country any longer and that is extremely disheartening.

Originally Posted by Bluto

Our petty quarrel here amounts to nothing, might as well fiddle while Rome burns.

fix.t

And how could you guys not like "Illbama"? I thought that one was pretty good myself. Oh well. It's been fun fellas, but I'm done with this one.

[petecaps]

this Garzilla guy may have no sense of humor, but his buddy Mitch can sure play the guitar!!!!

Recommend going to his profile and myspace connection to see/hear what I am talking about.

Now lighten up a bit bro!!!!

[Garzilla]

Originally Posted by petecaps

this Garzilla guy may have no sense of humor, but his buddy Mitch can sure play the guitar!!!!
Recommend going to his profile and myspace connection to see/hear what I am talking about.
Now lighten up a bit bro!!!!

LOL...thanks for that Pete. Lightening up.

[Bluto]

Originally Posted by caddye

I would have thought their would have been a lot of cheering here after the Bush Business Court gave free reigns to corporations to buy every election from here on out. Maybe we can now do away with all laws and regulations applying to US business and get down to some good ole capitalism. This court descion will be added to the list of things Bush did to become the worst President ever.

By the way, just what is your alternative to capitalism? This evil capitalistic system of ours (with warts and all) has done more to fight tyranny (Nazis, Communists, Italian Fascists, Imperial Japanese..) and world hunger (breadbasket to the world, charities). As a source of incentive, it has driven our best to invent almost every major scientific achievement that has arisen over the last 150 years : who knows how many lives have been saved worldwide from our advances in medical technology alone.
Our horrible economy has generated enough "revenue" to afford the world's best armed-forces. The European elites in France, Germany, Belgium (etc) can complain about our society and then waste money on "social justice" type entitlements because they do not "foot the bill" to maintain strong Armed-forces. They have America to protect them.
Ours is the greatest country and our capitilist economy is in no small part a reason why. It allows our society to be free.