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NY Pete       Jun. 27, 2002 10:48 pm
hoffman       Jun. 27, 2002 10:52 pm
mneadle       Jun. 27, 2002 10:53 pm
Yossarian       Jun. 27, 2002 10:55 pm
hoffman       Jun. 27, 2002 10:59 pm
NY Pete       Jun. 27, 2002 11:01 pm
Yossarian       Jun. 27, 2002 11:03 pm
NY Pete       Jun. 27, 2002 11:05 pm
NY Pete       Jun. 27, 2002 11:06 pm
Deem       Jun. 28, 2002 02:12 am
ewb       Jun. 28, 2002 05:38 am
Flash       Jun. 28, 2002 07:08 am
Egoist       Jun. 28, 2002 07:26 am
Fuente Fan       Jun. 28, 2002 08:04 am
Scott From NY       Jun. 28, 2002 08:17 am
bigdaddy       Jun. 28, 2002 08:19 am
CPT/VSG       Jun. 28, 2002 08:33 am
bigdaddy       Jun. 28, 2002 08:59 am
bob       Jun. 28, 2002 09:19 am
bob       Jun. 28, 2002 09:23 am
witland       Jun. 28, 2002 09:41 am
Egoist       Jun. 28, 2002 10:11 am
Fast Freddy       Jun. 28, 2002 10:14 am
luvdog       Jun. 28, 2002 10:39 am
Bond       Jun. 28, 2002 11:01 am
cigarvp       Jun. 28, 2002 11:19 am
NY Pete       Jun. 28, 2002 12:30 pm
BluesBoy       Jun. 28, 2002 01:27 pm
Bond       Jun. 28, 2002 02:08 pm
Yossarian       Jun. 28, 2002 02:12 pm
bigdaddy       Jun. 28, 2002 02:21 pm
NY Pete       Jun. 28, 2002 03:32 pm
mmeadows       Jun. 28, 2002 08:23 pm
bob       Jun. 28, 2002 09:39 pm
proudpop       Jun. 29, 2002 01:56 am

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Default June 27, 2002, 10:48 PM

They trade one of the best young pitchers for a .190 hitter and 3 cups of coffee.
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Default June 27, 2002, 10:52 PM

I wondered the same thing...why couldn't they trade him to an AL team if they had to do this?

Thanks for nothing!
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Default June 27, 2002, 10:53 PM

They drafted Duwan Wagner I believe. From Camden, NJ. Scored 100 points in a game in high school. They know what they're doing.......
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Default June 27, 2002, 10:55 PM

Yeah, but how many touchdowns did he score?
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Default June 27, 2002, 10:59 PM

I still stand by my right to be bitter!

BTW Mark, congrats on Villanueve de Neadle!
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Default June 27, 2002, 11:01 PM

Mark, they apparently have some sort of building where people pay tribute to Loverboy too.

But I was talking about the game they play with the little white ball with stitching, not the bouncy pebbly orangey kind.
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Cricket? <IMG SRC='/cf4/images/smiley/smiley02.gif' BORDER=0 WIDTH=15 HEIGHT=15>
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Default June 27, 2002, 11:05 PM

And for the record, we'd have happily traded them a .203 hitter AND a .226 hitter, which adds up to a .429 hitter!

(And Mark, those numbers are called batting average. Say it with me:

<b><i> Bah ting ahv err ege.</b></i>

WHo says this place ain't edukayshional?
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chirp chirp
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Default June 28, 2002, 02:12 AM

Rather surprising.....I hope those prospects turn into something decent for them in the future.
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Default June 28, 2002, 05:38 AM

I've been pissed at them ever since they fired Randy Wittman.
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Default June 28, 2002, 07:08 AM

A BAD move IMHO, but what do I know? I'm a CUBS fan for Petes sake!!
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Default June 28, 2002, 07:26 AM

Freaking hilarious. What an awful move. Guess they are giving up on this year already and looking for 3 years down the road. Colon has been their only consistent pitcher all year.
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Default June 28, 2002, 08:04 AM

Sure looks like they are giving up on this year. Bad move imho.
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Default June 28, 2002, 08:17 AM

As long as Seattle or Boston didn't get him <IMG SRC='/cf4/images/smiley/smiley01.gif' BORDER=0 WIDTH=15 HEIGHT=15>
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Default June 28, 2002, 08:19 AM

They have lost their minds. Be prepared for an all out fire sale.


If (when) they get rid of Omar, I'm through with them. <IMG SRC='/cf4/images/smiley/smiley06.gif' BORDER=0 WIDTH=15 HEIGHT=15>
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Default June 28, 2002, 08:33 AM

As one FORMER season ticket holder, I will not be happy until I see that IDIOT Larry Dolan in rotting in Hell along with the incompetent smirky punk GM, Mark Shapiro, who wouldn't know a baseball player if he saw one. What a sad, sad, sad destruction of a franchise almost overnight by absolute idiots who have no idea of what they are doing. After 8 years of holding season tickets, I will never set foot in Jacobs Field again until I have positive confirmation that Dolan and Shapiro are resident in Hell where they belong.
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Default June 28, 2002, 08:59 AM

I see I'm not the only one pissed. LOL!

I couldn't have said it better myself, CPT/VSG.

BTW, the Cleveland Plain Dealer is raking Dolan and Shapiro over the coals pretty well today.

This reminds me of Marge Schott and the Reds all over again.
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Default June 28, 2002, 09:19 AM

Very sad day. First they tell us the are going to load up pitching when they traded Alomar, now they fire sale the best young pitcher in the league, Omar & Thome will be next to go then next season when they only draw 10 or 15000 a game they will cry and raise the prices. Just 2 years ago they sold out every home game for 419 games in a row now we are back to the old days with an owner that has no money a GM that has no idea, guess I will go buy a boat as I sure won't be spending my $6000.00 a year for tickets.
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Default June 28, 2002, 09:23 AM

Oh and the rumor around hear is that the player to be named later will be Tim Drew, a good PITCHING prospect in the minors now that has shown a lot of promise.
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Default June 28, 2002, 09:41 AM

At least no one can say that MLB is throwing in the towel in Montreal. They're making a respectable showing and trying to do everything on the up and up there.

On the other hand, WTF were the Indians thinking? <IMG SRC='/cf4/images/smiley/smiley02.gif' BORDER=0 WIDTH=15 HEIGHT=15>
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Default June 28, 2002, 10:11 AM

Good point witland, very good move by the Expos. Their 4 fans will be very happy.
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Default June 28, 2002, 10:14 AM

Expos to Selig: "Contract This!"
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Default June 28, 2002, 10:39 AM

They'll pick up the new "prospects" and when they get good, they'll trade them away for either a bunch of "has beens" or more "prospects"... just like the Indians of old.
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Default June 28, 2002, 11:01 AM

Dolan and Shapiro might as well be related to Modell for all intensive purposes. And I hope Selig decides to keep the Expo's and contract the Indians!!<IMG SRC='/cf4/images/smiley/smiley36.gif' BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=16>
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Default June 28, 2002, 11:19 AM

Yeah, but aren't those .109 hitters reeeaaaalll cheap these days, say only $2MM a year or so <IMG SRC='/cf4/images/smiley/smiley13.gif' BORDER=0>
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Default June 28, 2002, 12:30 PM

I forgot that pr!ck Dolan owns the Indians...those cable guys make Ken Lay look like Mother Theresa.

My deepest condolences.
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Default June 28, 2002, 01:27 PM

And I thought this thread was about school vouchers.
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Default June 28, 2002, 02:08 PM

I'll tell you how sad things are; I have the latest Tribe screen saver, and every 20 seconds it switches to a picture of a different player......and I cant tell ya how long its been since I saw a player that still plays for Cleveland!<IMG SRC='/cf4/images/smiley/smiley36.gif' BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=16>
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Default June 28, 2002, 02:12 PM

I would love to see Little O come back to Seattle. He was only traded because they knew they had A-Rod coming up, and Omar has always been a fan favorite in Seattle.
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Default June 28, 2002, 02:21 PM

I've been a Cleveland fan for 20+ years and I have never liked a player as well as I like Omar. He is what baseball should be about. Playing for the love of the game!!!

When he goes they can blow up the stadium for all I care. <IMG SRC='/cf4/images/smiley/smiley06.gif' BORDER=0 WIDTH=15 HEIGHT=15>
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Default June 28, 2002, 03:32 PM

Huh...that stinks. It'd be like us losing Nomaaaaaah...
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Default June 28, 2002, 08:23 PM

Welcome to our baseball hell <IMG SRC='/cf4/images/smiley/smiley02.gif' BORDER=0 WIDTH=15 HEIGHT=15>
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Default June 28, 2002, 09:39 PM

Did any one hear the spin they were putting on this afternoon? Makes me sick. But I did see a nice boat today!
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Default June 29, 2002, 01:56 AM

Colon salary = 4.5 million <br> Stevens salary = 4 million <br> Way to shed payroll Cleveland you idiots.
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